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Everything You Need to Know About Joe Biden and Sarah Palin

Thu, 10/02/2008 - 6:54am by CitizenSugar
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OK, not everything, but I've taken the liberty of personally vetting the entire internet this morning and since the whole thing is full of BidenPalin-palooza, here are the tastiest morsels:

  • Joe Biden hypes his blue-collar-lunch-bucket cred, but does his actual life ride the same train? The Times delves into just how "everyman" he actually is, from his 6,800 square foot home to how much that train ticket actually costs per month.


  • You've heard the one about that "Bridge to Nowhere," right? Rolling Stone has a slideshow comparing Palin myth to Palin fact, including the story behind that eBay-ed plane plus 10 more.
  • I think I guffawed at this one: Politico has "10 Answers for Sarah Palin" to use tonight, including this one, “Sure, I said, ‘Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States,’ but at least I didn’t plagiarize it.” Kapow. Point Palin?

There's much more! To see the rest, read more.

  • Oh yeah. Everyone will be talking about this: here's the video of the Supreme Court question.
  • How is Joe Biden managing the gender issue? Apparently, it's a non-issue, with this quote, "Voters aren't tuning in for a vice presidential food fight." If they both had a pie at their podiums though. . . just an idea.
  • How are Alaskans feeling about Palin? Well. . . let's just say the word "cringe" was involved. Liberally.
  • And finally, some real advice for the candidates tonight from experts weighing in the Politico Arena, including one suggestion that Palin, "remember that she is under no obligation to answer whatever Ifill asks."

If these stories are any indication of what to expect, let the countdown begin! Meet me in St. Louis!

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  • sonya ina's picture
    sonya ina
    1

    Tonight's debate is going to be interesting, that's all I'm going to say.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • TxRdRaider's picture
    TxRdRaider
    2

    Sounds like some interesting stories out there too...thanks for the highlights.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Jillness's picture
    Jillness
    3

    I hope it doesn't become demeaning. I know people like Palin for her sass, but we have some serious issues to discuss. Very serious. If it becomes Marcy Darcy vs. Al Bundy, I am going to tune out!

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • UnDave35's picture
    UnDave35
    4

    The Times covers Biden, but the best we can do is get the Rolling Stone for Palin? Since when did Rolling Stone become a serious journal of news?

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • mondaymoos's picture
    mondaymoos
    5

    Unfortunately, I think you have to be taken semi-seriously to be in a serious journal of news, UnDave.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • kastarte2's picture
    kastarte2
    6

    "Marcy Darcy vs. Al Bundy, I am going to tune out!"

    I bet this is the most watched VP debate ever. Love her or hater her, people are going to tune in to see Palin. Otherwise how would they be able to follow the next SNL opener? Eye-wink

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Woop's picture
    Woop
    7

    "Marcy Darcy vs. Al Bundy" Haha, nice! Bring on the gaffe-fest!

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • MarinerMandy's picture
    MarinerMandy
    8

    I'm ridiculously excited for this debate, but I think I'm looking forward to the SNL version even more!

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • em1282's picture
    em1282
    11

    I'm worried about how Biden's going to come off. I'm afraid the words "condescending" and "glib" are going to be thrown about when he goes against Palin--not because he is either of those things, IMO, but because of how people are expecting her to get special treatment because she's not as well-versed in particular areas of knowledge.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • mymellowman's picture
    mymellowman
    12

    If Biden sticks to topics he knows, like FDR, the stock market crash of '29 and television history, it should go fine. Smiling

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • em1282's picture
    em1282
    13

    Oh, he will, I just hope Palin doesn't pull a "Well, I'll find some and get back to ya!". Not enough time in a debate for that sort of stuff Eye-wink

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Woop's picture
    Woop
    15

    em1282 - I'm worried that Palin will pull off something much like what Will Ferrell did in Old School when he had to debate Carville. Something that will make the country realize that the mccain camp played everyone.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • dreamsugar's picture
    dreamsugar
    16

    I actually think the bar is so low that all she'll have to do is tell some funny jokes and she'll be an "INSTANT" success. Much like her acceptance speech.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • yesteryear's picture
    yesteryear
    17

    i already know everything i need to know about palin. she is so stupid that she bores me.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Marni7's picture
    Marni7
    19

    I caught an excerpt from her Couric interview and it was so frustruating to watch..she couldnt answer questions with a direct answer..u could tell Katie was like ok..just give me one..one specific thing! ahhhhh!

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • mydiadem's picture
    mydiadem
    21

    I didn't find her RNC speech funny at all, I found it condescending and insulting in a lot of ways. I'm supposed to be on a plane during the debate but I'm going to try to get standby on an earlier flight so I can watch it!

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • stephley's picture
    stephley
    22

    I'm not feeling any need to watch tonight - it's an insult to Biden that he has to debate that insult to Joe Six-pack.

    Dave, Rolling Stone's been known for its political writing since its inception - PJ O'Rourke, a noted conservative novelist got famous there, as did Hunter S. Thompson and Joe Klein, who wrote Primary Colors.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • CYL's picture
    CYL
    23

    Ugh...I hope Biden does some Palin smack down... but I am also worried about him looking condescending/sexist..but come on against Palin...a 5 year old would look condescending!

    However I think Palin will be well versed and her camp should have preped and preped her for this debate so she will probably come home MORE coherent than in her Couric interviews.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • dreamsugar's picture
    dreamsugar
    24

    If he looks or breathes in Palin's direction it's sexist -- I personally don't see how he can win. It's like dammed if you do dammed if you don't. If they stick to the issues she's goner.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • stephley's picture
    stephley
    25

    If you compare what the Times says about Biden's family income to what the St. Louis Business Journal says about Palin's, you find they're just about equal.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • True Song's picture
    True Song
    26

    Too bad. In West Wing land, they decided Bartlet would come off as arrogant no matter what, so they just let him.

    RITCHIE:
    Now, he's going to throw a big word at you--"unfunded mandate." If Washington lets the states do it, it's an unfunded mandate. But what he doesn't like is the federal government losing power. But I call it the ingenuity of the American people.

    MODERATOR
    President Bartlet, you have 60 seconds for a question and an answer.

    BARTLET
    Well, first of all, let's clear up a couple of things. "Unfunded mandate" is two words, not one "big word."

    The whole episode is so great.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • EkaterinaBallerina's picture
    EkaterinaBallerina
    27

    I find it truly sad that when asked what other Supreme Court decisions she disagreed with, she couldn't come up with one. Not because this is another misstep but because she openly and publicly disagreed with one FOUR MONTHS AGO (the recent Supreme Court decision regarding punitive damages in the Exxon Valdez disaster) . She even filed an amicus against it! She forgot that?

    http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/062608/sta_295993390.shtml

    I'm hoping that they stay on point tonight--not because it's her weak spot, but because that's what the viewers deserve. If she wants to be a formidable candidate she needs to start acting like one.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • em1282's picture
    em1282
    28

    That would be worth the price of admission, Woop. Love the avatar, BTW. Eye-wink

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Ginger's picture
    Ginger
    31

    If anyone misses it tonight, I'm sure Jon Stewart will have some highlights on his show tomorrow. Eye-wink

    I think it will be entertaining. Biden will probably be even more confident and statesmanlike than Obama. Palin will more befuddled and snarky than McCain.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • RobyTose's picture
    RobyTose
    32

    I've been reading and seeing so much of Palin lately and I think I've formed my opinion on her, but I'd really like to see how Biden represents himself tonight. Palin's gotten so much bad press... the news on Biden has been almost silent. I can't wait to see them together tonight.

    I hope the format is similar to the presidential debate last Friday where the goal was to get the candidates to discuss things with EACH OTHER.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Woop's picture
    Woop
    34

    Roby Tose - the format for the vp debate will be different than the presidential one.

    "At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html?scp=5&sq=vp%...

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • wadewifey3's picture
    wadewifey3
    36

    I think they should have a First Lady/Dude debate. We all know who would win that one. Forget Presidential and VP debate, let's just have the Cindy and Michelle or Jill and Todd duke it out. Who you are married is a great representation of who you are.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • NYFashionista's picture
    NYFashionista
    37

    All I can say is do NOT lower your expectations for Palin. She doesn't deserve it.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • UnDave35's picture
    UnDave35
    38

    And she doesn't need it. I think she'll do a whole lat better than people are expecting.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Jude C's picture
    Jude C
    39

    I find the idea that someone in the White House should be an Everyman to be irritating.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Jude C's picture
    Jude C
    40

    UD, you're right. As long as she manages to string a few coherent sentences together and not appear to be an ignorant buffoon, she'll do better than many people are expecting Eye-wink

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • liliblu's picture
    liliblu
    41

    I just read what Fred Thompson had to say about Palin not being able to name a Sumpreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade that She disagreed with. It was pretty pathetic. He said she wasn't a lawyer and she should have time to go over a list. the bar has been set so low for Palin, all she has to do is not trip over her feet getting on the stage and she'll be a success.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Imabeliever's picture
    Imabeliever
    42

    Oh please.. with her recent interview fiasco's, her 14 point drop in approval rating, attacks coming from female conservatives as well as democrats.. the republican news channels screaming to high heaven about the moderator's publicized book that was announced last June(I know McCain doesn't use a computer..but seriously can anyone in his campaign google a name? ).. it all combines so that all Palin has to do is not fall down, pass out, or forget McCain's name and they will scream SUCCESS!!

    Biden already commended her for being a good debater(since they have been studying her style)..as seen in previous televised events for Alaska.. she is a master at the non answer and somehow belittling people who have an informed and correct answer. She is personable supposedly.

    So I expect her numbers to be better tomorrow and that the McCain/Palin ticket will get a boost from tonight... there is absolutely no excuse if she F's it up.. not with all of the outdoor babbling brook side ala Hidden Valley Ranch debate rehearsals and how to be a vice president/president of senate clift's notes she has been given the past few weeks.

    She has no choice but to do well..so she will.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Imabeliever's picture
    Imabeliever
    43

    And Palin drawing a blank on a supreme court case she disagreed with other than RoevWade makes no damn sense at all considering she strongly disagreed publically with the Supreme Court one year ago regarding their decision about Exxon cutting punitive damages due to the oil spill. Exxon Shipping Co. v. Baker (07-219)

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • Imabeliever's picture
    Imabeliever
    44

    I meant to say their decision to grant a review one year ago.. the decision was just passed down this June and I am sure she is aware of the verdict since she disagreed a year ago when the review was granted and since it negatively effects Alaskan fisherman.

    8 weeks 4 days ago Report Comment
  • dreamsugar's picture
    dreamsugar
    45

    I wonder if she'll answer every question with an answer. I just love it when she does that.

    8 weeks 3 days ago Report Comment