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Front Page: Worst Afghanistan Toll, Cell Phone Law, Obama to Expand Faith-Based Programs

Tue, 07/01/2008 - 7:05am by CitizenSugar
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  • Worst Afghanistan Toll:
    June was the deadliest for foreign troops in Afghanistan since the 2001 fall of the Taliban, and it was the second month in a row where the toll exceeded that in Iraq. At least 45 foreign troops were killed compared with 31 soldier deaths in Iraq. The casualty rate is thought to be tied to the Taliban's aim for headline-grabbing attacks that will promote their growing strength. Almost half of the 122 foreign soldiers who have died in Afghanistan during 2008 were killed in June, most by roadside bombs.

  • Cell Phone Law:
    California's hands-free cell phone law goes into effect today. Offenders not using a hands-free headset while driving will be subject to a $20 fine for a first offense, and $50 for subsequent offenses. The law does not outlaw texting while driving, leading some to think the claims of safety are relative. Meanwhile, Sioux Falls, SD, has been named the safest driving city in the US.
  • Obama to Expand Faith-Based Programs:
    Barack Obama is announcing plans to expand funding for President Bush's faith-based programs, pointing more Federal social service dollars to religious groups — and he'll announce that he will support some ability to hire and fire based on faith. The plan will be unveiled during remarks at the Eastside Community Ministry in Ohio. Obama is expected to say, ''the challenges we face today. . . are simply too big for government to solve alone. We need all hands on deck.''

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  • lilkimbo's picture
    lilkimbo
    1

    I saw this morning that DC was the least safe. I'm not surprised; I see accidents here all of the time! Everyone is in too big a hurry to pay attention to what they are doing. That being said, the accidents I typically see are minor. I wonder how much the Allstate survey looked in to types of accidents.

    I like Obama's ideas about expanding federal money for faith-based programs. Some will say he's pandering for votes, but I disagree. I really believe a lot of faith-based charities have the demonstrated ability to run things more efficiently. I have volunteered at several faith-based soup kitchens, and none of them have ever pushed religion on to those receiving help. It's also refreshing to see a politician do something that might not be 100% in line with what you would normally expect from his party.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • ktacce's picture
    ktacce
    2

    i think you mean more Federal (not ederal) social service... Eye-wink

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • raciccarone's picture
    raciccarone
    3

    We should just call this candidate "Obacain" since you can't tell the difference any longer between the republican and the democrat candidate.

    Yeah, giving federal money to specific religions has worked really well in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria. I say go for it.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • kastarte2's picture
    kastarte2
    4

    It is definately pandering, but if pandering gets him the win in November, he can pander all the way to the White House as far as I'm concerned. Eye-wink

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • UnDave35's picture
    UnDave35
    5

    California has a law saying you have to use a hands free device to talk, but you can still text?!?! That makes total sense. (sarcasm)

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • yesteryear's picture
    yesteryear
    7

    i personally believe this hands free law is just a power grab by the very ruthless cell phone headset lobby.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • torgleson's picture
    torgleson
    9

    That article about Obama seemed to say he supported allowing religious institutions to hire and fire based on faith, and only in positions not related to anything tax-payer funded. So, isn't he basically saying the Baptist church can say you have to be a Baptist to work there? This seems...not newsworthy.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • raciccarone's picture
    raciccarone
    10

    The idea behind faith-based federal spending is that the government gives money to churches. What the churches do with that money is irrelevant, I don't want the Catholic Church, a synagogue or any other religious institution to get my tax money. That's why they don't pay taxes.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • yesteryear's picture
    yesteryear
    11

    i agree with you raciccarone... if the church sets up a foundation or a nonprofit that has a separate budget, that's one thing. but if they are just giving money directly to the churches, that should be illegal. no one can deny that many of our inner cities really do need these types of local, community based organizations helping out with problems on the ground - but they need to do it in an inclusive way. also, torgleson, faith based orgs, including schools, can state that they prefer to hire within their same faith, but i don't think the law allows them to discriminate. if so, i could start a faith-based bank that only hires white women with brown eyes and brown hair (like me!) and would not be charged with hiring discrimination.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • trésjolie's picture
    trésjolie
    12

    "June was the deadliest for foreign troops in Afghanistan since the 2001 fall of the Taliban, and it was the second month in a row where the toll exceeded that in Iraq. At least 45 foreign troops were killed compared with 31 soldier deaths in Iraq. The casualty rate is thought to be tied to the Taliban's aim for headline-grabbing attacks that will promote their growing strength. Almost half of the 122 foreign soldiers who have died in Afghanistan during 2008 were killed in June, most by roadside bombs."

    Great that you put this on Citizen!

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • stiletta's picture
    stiletta
    13

    I hope they're in their desperate last throws. Maybe that would account for the recent offensives.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • UnDave35's picture
    UnDave35
    14

    I like the idea of the government giving money to faith based charities. These charities are able to use those funds more efficiently than the government, and can therefore do more good. As an example Lutheran Social Services is able to send 90% of every dollar donated to a specific emergency, where the national average is 65%. Why not give the money directly to an organization that is 35% more efficient with the money?

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Jillness's picture
    Jillness
    15

    I think that when you look at the US as a whole, many faith based groups are already have programs set up to help people, and they are already instilled in the community. In a town that has 3,000 people in it, you might have a lot living in poverty but not enough people to get the spotlight of Federal attention.

    Obama's stance on faith based help makes sense considering his work as a community organizer in Chicago, and how many Churches of different faiths that he worked with. I think he recognizes that if the churches efforts are organized and work together...they can REALLY help people.

    I am not against faith based help...as long as it doesn't cross over into abstinence only sex education. I don't think you can disagree that we really need "all hands on deck". The amount of poverty caused by the housing crisis and gas price situation hasn't fully been realized yet.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Jillness's picture
    Jillness
    16

    Obama does not support requiring religious tests for recipients of aid nor using federal money to proselytize, according to a campaign fact sheet. He also only supports letting religious institutions hire and fire based on faith in the non-taxypayer funded portions of their activities, said a senior adviser to the campaign, who spoke on condition of anonymity to more freely describe the new policy.

    Obama proposes to elevate the program to a ''moral center'' of his administration, by renaming it the Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, and changing training from occasional huge conferences to empowering larger religious charities to mentor smaller ones in their communities.

    Like Bush, Obama was arguing that religious organizations can and should play a bigger role in serving the poor and meeting other social needs. But while Bush argued that the strength of religious charities lies primarily in shared religious identity between workers and recipients, Obama was to tout the benefits of their ''bottom-up'' approach.

    ''Because they're so close to the people, they're well-placed to offer help,'' he said.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • lilkimbo's picture
    lilkimbo
    17

    I agree with Obama on this one. Like Jill said, a lot of religious charities are already set up and know how to best serve their unique communities. Also, religious charities tend to already have a large base of volunteers. I know for me personally, most of the volunteer work I did growing up was set up through my family's church with religious based organizations. This work was very rarely religious in nature, with the most religious it ever got being a short prayer said among volunteers before serving at a soup kitchen. And not all of the volunteers even participated.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • stephley's picture
    stephley
    18

    Knowing what I do of "non-taxypayer funded portions" of religious charities, and the way things can be manipulated, I think this is just an invitation to trouble. I don't care how well-intentioned these programs are, the potential for abuse - especially in light of abuses already reported - is too great to further breach the separation.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • popgoestheworld's picture
    popgoestheworld
    19

    This is just his way of funneling money to the muslim terrorist organizations throughout the US.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Great Sommelier's picture
    Great Sommelier
    21

    lilkimbo, my husband and I drove through DC a couple years ago. I have never seen such aggressive driving in my entire life. Even in the gas station the attendant made fun of my southern accent when I said, "Excuse me, y'all are out of toilet paper." Which is what everyone down here would say. And my accent is one of the least thick of anyone I know because of my years in speech/debate. I just told him I was going to buy some snacks and drinks but his behavior made me lose my appetite.

    8 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • UnDave35's picture
    UnDave35
    22

    Thank goodness guns weren't allowed in DC at that time GS, because if you had one, you probably would've shot the stupid bastard...

    8 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • lilkimbo's picture
    lilkimbo
    25

    GS, the weird thing is that a lot of people here act like they're Southerners! It's bizarre. I recognize that we're south of the Mason-Dixon line, but DC is not the first place that comes to mind when I think of Southern cities.

    Pop, not to be argumentative, but I beg to differ. I see people with DC, Maryland, and Virginia plates get in fender benders, almost hit pedestrians, and get in arguments with cyclists on a daily basis.

    8 weeks 14 hours ago Report Comment
  • popgoestheworld's picture
    popgoestheworld
    26

    lol lilkimbo, I agree. There are a lot of aggressive drivers around here, esp DC cab drivers! The poor tourists usually just don't have the first clue how to navigate the traffic circles, but to be fair lots of DC residents suck at it also.

    Honestly though, the pedestrians here are totally clueless and most of the time it's their fault for walking through red lights while on their Blackberry.

    So happy I live where I can walk everywhere and avoid the road rage!

    8 weeks 11 hours ago Report Comment
  • lilkimbo's picture
    lilkimbo
    27

    That is so true about the pedestrians! I think a lot of people in the city are just so self-involved. (Of course, that's a sweeping generalization, but if the shoe fits...) I walk through Washington Circle on the way to work and people always just walk in front of oncoming traffic. Wherever you're going can't be that important!

    8 weeks 11 hours ago Report Comment

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